Венгрия сбросила евро-удавку и национализировала Национальный Банк

10.01.2012 (17:29) / Фiтькалу
..........."Мож подумати, што мiж нашими дуркнутих не е. Tи у першу очередь. Лиш най самi мадяри тобi уповидят, хто ти для них е "руська свинья".......
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Фiтькалу далекий ти чоловiк, iз хащi. Не всi руськi "свинi". Кулько много свиней мiсцевих. А кулько много закарпатцiв кормиться (заробляе) в России, як ти их называешь "свиньями". Попробовали би руськi приезжать сюда на заработки. Такi як ти сразу би начали возникати. Так що заткай свуй язык в гузицю и фiтькай дальше.

и еще: Не Венгрии угрожает выход из Евросоюза, а наоборот, Венгрия угрожает выйти. Орбан еще до выборов дал понять Брюсселю: "И за межами Евросоюза существует жизнь..."

Как тоько один раз Венгрия посмеила сказать "нет" Европейскому Союзу, в СМИ соседних стран сразу появилась всякая хирня по заказу...

Hungary 'ready to negotiate on everything', says foreign minister
The Hungarian government has vowed to do whatever it takes to secure its second bailout in four years – even if that means repealing or amending some of the controversial new laws it has passed in recent weeks.

"Everything is negotiable," said János Martonyi, the Hungarian foreign minister, in an interview with the Guardian on Monday. "We want to start negotiating with the IMF and to come to an agreement as soon as possible." There will be a deal, he repeated several times.

Martonyi spoke out as Hungary's chief negotiator, Tamás Fellegi, travelled to Washington to begin informal talks over a €15bn-20bn credit line. One reason the money is needed is to maintain payments on Hungary's first IMF bailout, given back in 2008.

The risk of the country failing to reach an agreement with the IMF sent the forint last week to a record low, pushed default risk to a record peak and lifted government borrowing costs to the highest level since 2009. Economists such as Christian Schulz at Berenberg Bank in London have warned that Hungarian bankruptcy is a real possibility" and that an IMF pact may be the country's last chance to stave off a default.

Christine Lagarde, head of the IMF, has maintained a tough line over aid to Hungary, telling the US news channel CNN on Friday: "We're not complacent. We don't compromise. But, equally, we never leave the table."

Her remarks echoed those from the European Union spokesman Olivier Bailly, who said last week: "[The Hungarian prime minister, Viktor] Orbán is confident that, in the end, we will pay. We think he will have to change the law if he wants his money."

Lagarde said that an important precondition would be a willingness to maintain the independence of Hungary's central bank, which many critics – including its governor – say could be compromised by the introduction of a new central bank law that allows the government to appoint a deputy governor
On Sunday Orbán gave an interview to the state news agency MTI, saying that while his government was open to "any kind" of credit line to prop up financing, he saw no reason to amend the Central Bank Act.

Martonyi said on Monday that he "appreciated" Lagarde's "clear statement". When asked if his government was ready to repeal or amend laws in order to get the loan, he said: "We are ready to negotiate on everything."

The foreign minister acknowledged that not all of the 350-plus new laws his government had passed in its 20 months in power were necessarily compliant with European law. But, he said, Hungary was receiving unfair criticism from those who claim Orbán is a dictator – protesters call him the "Viktator" – and that democracy is being eroded.

He said: "It's one thing to [raise] issues where our legislation may or may not be fully in line with EU rules. That's one point. There might be several such issues. But it's a completely different point whether Hungary has a system based on the rule of law, that Hungary is a democratic country, whether Hungary respects fundamental human rights and so on."

Such insults were "completely unacceptable" he said, while stressing: "I never said that were are perfect or were perfect."

He said he was talking to the foreign press in order to improve Hungary's international reputation, which has reached a nadir in recent weeks amid widespread criticism over the direction in which the country was heading. "We have to do everything so that this reputation improves," said Martonyi. "We have to inform, explain, correct things which are unfair and unjust and factually wrong."

Just before Christmas, Gergely Prohle, one of Martonyi's closest colleagues in the foreign office, gave an interview saying that "presenting Europe as an enemy, the strengthening of such an enemy image, stops us from clarifying our own responsibilities"
Martonyi agreed that Hungarians have sometimes been too quick to portray Europe as the enemy while neglecting to explore their own failings. "We have to look within ourselves as well," he said.

When asked whether he regretted the strong anti-IMF rhetoric that has come from the Hungarian government – particularly the unconventional economy minister, György Matolcsy – since it sent the IMF away in spring 2010, Martonyi distanced himself from his colleague. "I have never applied any kind of hostile language or animosity vis-à-vis the IMF," he said. "I have a very strong point on that, which is I believe that the world definitely needs the IMF."

Martonyi said his government had a duty to listen to the complaints made both by international observers and partners and by those tens of thousands of people who gathered outside the Budapest opera house last Monday to protest against the government.

But, he said, it was wrong that opposition MPs were refusing to participate in parliamentary business – some have boycotted parliament after complaining they were not listened to – and were instead "doing politics in the street", such as at the opera protest, which united all leftwing opposition parties and other interest groups.

"You shouldn't forget that our political family, if it wants, we can put to the streets 10 times more people than they [the opposition] can," he said. "But we don't want to. But we don't think this is the way of having a democratic dialogue, [competing] who can send more people to the streets."

On Monday, the newspaper Népszabadság reported that the Fidesz leadership is preparing to stage a "show of strength" with a huge rally when Orbán gives his annual state of the nation speech in February

Венгрия национализировала Национальный Банк??????
А кто приватизировал его?

09.01.2012 (21:03) / хеймдалль
молодци мадяре!!! респект!!!....валит жидовню!!!
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10.01.2012 (11:38) / balu
........."кожна нація мае право на життя в цьому світі".....
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Правильно говорите, но як кажуть люди. "Як в каждом огороде есть свои сорняки и паразити, так и каждой нации и национальности есть свои сорняки и паразити".... Если хеймдалль 09.01.2012 (21:03)
говорит....валит жидовню!!! и подразумевает евреев, то ОН НЕ ПРАВ. Еврей такая же национальность, как и украинец, русский, венгр, чех и т.д., а жид не имеет национальности - жиди - это террористы, только МАХРОВЫЕ ФИНАНСОВО-ЭКОНОМИЧЕСКИЕ.

Очень плохой перевод, либо машинный рерайт. Куча несоответствий.

09.01.2012 (21:43) / Aral
......"Для нашей страны очень много ярких примеров, чтоб начинать уже думать о своем благополучии и не лезть туда, откуда потом невозможно будет выбраться. Есть некоторые "умники", которые хотят в Россию из-за дешового газа, но это глупо, больше никакой выгоды не будет и тогда этот дешевый газ не будет казаться пределом мечтаний, каким кажется сейчас"...
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Розумаку. Европе нужны территории и чем меньше будет населения Украины тем лучше для ЕС, США,
МВФ и прочих жидомасянских каганатов, а в России своей территории хватает. Другой вопрос кто и там заправляет.

09.01.2012 (21:41) / Виктор Сана СТО Смарт
Орбана к комунякам в КНДР!!!!
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Виктор Сана СТО Смарт, он же европеец-браток демократ с иностранной жоповозкой, за которую он готов лизать. Уважуха мадярам!!!! Гнать в шею стандарты ЕврейСоюза-это выгода только для них. А еврейсоюзу нужны территории Украины - для иудейского каганата. ЕС, США, англицкая королева прикрывают украинских и российских воров.

най лиш прийде мадярський нацiоналiст, ун усiм русинам кул у гузицю забье...

Орбана к комунякам в КНДР!!!!

Всех жидов в концентрационные лагеря, надо устроить жидам настоящий холокост!

Все люди братья, но не все по разуму.

молодци мадяре!!! респект!!!....валит жидовню!!!

что за хрень напечатана... статья переведена через автоматический компьютерный переводчик...стыдно должно быть редакции сайта... про суть не сужу - это выбор Венгрии,но стиль,статьи ужасен...

В историю трудно войти, но легко вляпаться.

* Hungary govt starts talks with IMF officials in Washington

* Govt backs down after forint hit record low, yields surged

* Hungarians fear full blown crisis, forint weakness

* Govt wants deal, faces tough talks, cbank law key

By Krisztina Than and Marton Dunai

BUDAPEST, Jan 9 (Reuters) - Hungary reaches crunch time with the IMF this week as it tries to win a funding deal to prevent a market meltdown after a series of policy mistakes sapped investor confidence and the government's domestic support.

Conservative Prime Minister Viktor Orban fell out with international lenders after they rejected several of his policies but plunging financial markets and criticism from abroad have forced him to backtrack.

Thousands of Hungarians have protested new laws that are seen as undemocratic and the forint's slide to previously unseen levels has stirred fears over their personal finances.

A leading tabloid "Bors" said on its front page on Sunday: "If default comes, we are finished in half a year. Only the IMF can save us from collapse."
The head of Hungary's negotiating team, Tamas Fellegi, is in Washington this week with a mandate from Orban to accept a precautionary International Monetary Fund loan with stricter conditions than he originally wanted. Aid talks with the European Union are expected to follow.

Zoltan Kosa said his Exclusive Change chain of 280 exchange kiosks saw a jump in turnover whenever the forint exchange rate fluctuated wildly last week. He said people bought euros, U.S. dollars, pounds, Swiss francs and even Norwegian crowns.

"There's no panic, but there is a palpable fear among ordinary people," Kosa said.

Other people who had bought euros when the forint was stronger have begun to cash in, he said.

Many Hungarians have home loans denominated in foreign currencies and their repayments have risen sharply.

"For me, what's at stake is my mortgage. I have a small apartment... with a small mortgage that grew pretty huge in the past few months. This strong euro, or weak forint... it's killing me," said Gabriella Feledi, 29, a hair dresser.

FLEXING HIS MUSCLES

Orban, whose Fidesz party shot to power in 2010 with the strongest majority in post-communist history, has tried to strengthen his influence over media and public institutions including the central bank.

This has angered businesses and investors and helped lose him almost half of his supporters at home. Over half of all Hungarians say they would no longer vote for any political party.

Orban has said all issues are up for discussion in the talks with the IMF and the EU but they are still expected to be difficult.
The most thorny subject is a new law which the lenders and the European Central Bank say curbs the Hungarian central bank's independence.

IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde said over the weekend she hoped "the Hungarian authorities will be very keen to have their legislation in compliance with European regulation as well, particularly when it concerns the independence of their central bank."

Orban said the same day he saw no legal problem with the law, especially because the EU did not complain in 2004 when a previous Socialist government had enlarged the Monetary Council, one of the new measures.

The government is not planning to draw on the money but with about 4 trillion forints ($16.07 billion) worth of debt to roll over this year, including repayments of a 2008 IMF/EU deal, analysts say the new deal is crucial for avoiding a market collapse.

Hungary's debt rating was cut to BB+ by Fitch on Friday, the third downgrade to "junk" by international rating agencies since November.

Markets calmed down on Monday on hopes of a new IMF deal, and the forint firmed to 315 from last week's record low of 324.20.

Many Hungarians and analysts expect Orban will eventually do everything necessary to come up with a deal.

"It's foolish to think there will be a default. It's just the Hungarian way, coming up with a solution in the very last minute," said Geza Kis, 50, a chauffeur.

"Orban is flexing his muscles because he thinks people like that at home, but we know it's just a show."

Наилучший способ сохранить чистоту своей расы - это переселить ее на Луну.

Для нашей страны очень много ярких примеров, чтоб начинать уже думать о своем благополучии и не лезть туда, откуда потом невозможно будет выбраться. Есть некоторые "умники", которые хотят в Евросоюз из-за дешевых иномарок, но это глупо, больше никакой выгоды не будет и тогда эта дешевая машина не будет казаться пределом мечтаний, каким кажется сейчас...